Ask.com has closed

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138 points | by supermdguy 1 hour ago

21 comments

  • sixo 1 hour ago
    Missed opportunity to name an LLM "Jeeves" and finally live up to the vision.
    • johnzim 7 minutes ago
      One of the best improvements to my life was adding the following to my LLM Prompt: "Please respond as Jeeves from the P.G. Wodehouse stories".

      Not only are the LLMs quite excellent at emulating the valet, the actual dynamic fits fascinatingly well. Jeeves was always both perspicacious and enthusiastic about whatever task he was given - be it ironing a shirt or seeing to Bertie's continued wellbeing.

    • gizajob 1 minute ago
      I think about six months ago I commented on an AI thread to the effect of “I’m happy that after a 30 year effort and hundreds of billions spent, AskJeeves finally works as intended” - Jeeves is totally ripe for LLMing.

      Completely baffling that after keeping ask.com going for this entire time (some two and a half decades of irrelevance) they shut it down at the point at which it can actually be made to work.

    • NewJazz 1 hour ago
      Maybe this is a precursor to them selling the mark to someone who (at least thinks they) can capitalize on it.
      • harikb 19 minutes ago
        The guy who bought friendster.com lurks here
    • DANmode 29 minutes ago
      You have no idea how correct you are…

      Ask Jeeves launched in 1997 as a natural language query model!

      and until about 2000…some people preferred it!

      Edit: and after that its indexing and result were clowned ruthlessly,

      but that doesn’t change what I’m saying!

    • pailingems 1 hour ago
      Two years ago I made a rudimentary chatbot/agent for our long running IRC channel using the OpenAI API as the "brain". Its nickname is Jeeves.
  • cyode 14 minutes ago
    “Jeeves’ spirit endures.”

    This goes hard.

    While he never married or had children, Jeeves is survived by his brother software butlers Jenkins and Alfred who have asked the public for privacy during this difficult time.

  • solomonb 39 minutes ago
    Man as a teenager I was in a Day of Defeat clan with a couple of the Ask Jeeves engineers. They were really cool.
  • lldb 45 minutes ago
    It's mildly interesting that this landing page is hosted on github pages: https://github.com/askmediagroup/ask.com
  • arm32 1 hour ago
    • tptacek 1 hour ago
      Was it ever good?
      • stingraycharles 1 hour ago
        None of the search engines from that era were really good. AltaVista was perhaps the best, but AskJeeves was up there and people used multiple. AltaVista, AskJeeves, Yahoo, etc. They all had their pros and cons.

        Then Google arrived and showed them what a “good” search engine was like.

        • rsync 59 minutes ago
          Altavista was fantastic and represented a features and usability high water mark that was never passed by google.

          Full boolean operator search with "literals" actually respected, negative search terms worked as advertised, etc.

          None of that ever worked properly, consistently, at google.

          • thayne 6 minutes ago
            > None of that ever worked properly, consistently, at google.

            My experience is it worked pretty well on Google for a while, but then it got progressively worse.

          • mrandish 13 minutes ago
            Agreed. AltaVista was the best of the pre-Google search engines. I seem to remember Google having negative terms, literals and booleans (at least or/and) - although they weren't well documented, they worked. Amazon had literals and negative terms too for many years. Now searching on both of those sites is "search theater", where they pretend to give targeted results while burying the result you're looking for just deep enough to maximize page views before too many users bounce.

            I fucking hate we now live in a world where leading companies A/B test precisely how much they can degrade their core product value and annoy users knowing they're safe from competitors because startups know if they threaten Google/Amazon on that stuff they'll just put back the minimum functionality long enough to ensure the new player dies.

          • seanmcdirmid 54 minutes ago
            I would think that 90% of the principals at DEC/Compaq WRL working on AltaVista would have moved to google, their first office was nearby in downtown Palo Alto back in 1999.
        • cm2187 19 minutes ago
          AltaVista and HotBot for me. Yahoo wasn't a search engine, it was a manually curated website directory (with a hierarchical structure), which was great for finding similar websites if you found one you liked.
          • eduction 14 minutes ago
            You could get search results on yahoo. The directory results would come first and then search results from their current “partner.” At one point it was Inktomi, the Berkeley company behind HotBot. At one point it was Google. Before them, one of the more generic ones.
        • bandrami 1 hour ago
          And at the time it was still an open question whether search engines or curated oracles like Yahoo would be what stuck in the long term.
        • helterskelter 1 hour ago
          Around this time you also had meta search engines, which gave you the dedup'd results of all the major search engines at the time. There was MetaCrawler and Dogpile from what I remember, both of which are oddly still around.
        • tptacek 1 hour ago
          I remember AltaVista being the only really credible search engine prior to Google (I took a brief detour to Excite but kept going back to AltaVista). Jeeves I only remember for the freeform query gimmick.
        • bsimpson 25 minutes ago
          Don't forget WebCrawler!
        • bsder 47 minutes ago
          AltaVista had a Java applet that would visualize the "clusters" that a search produced. You could then click on a "cluster" in order to exclude all the irrelevant ones and the search results would update.

          For example: Searching on "python" would give you two obvious clusters one for "reptiles" and one for "programming languages". Clicking on the appropriate cluster would screen out all the irrelevant ones.

          This is a feature still unmatched by any search engine today.

        • DeathArrow 45 minutes ago
          Alta Vista had more relevant search results than Google has now.
        • throwatdem12311 46 minutes ago
          And now every search engine has been flooded with SEO’d AI slop and they all suck again.
        • kwoff 1 hour ago
          Exactly. Before google came out in I think 1998, I had several bookmarked sites like excite.com, altavista, dogpile, yahoo, and yes askjeeves. You kinda had a feeling for which one would be good for which kind of search. But then google came along...
      • bandrami 1 hour ago
        Yes. When it came out it was amazing, and it forced the existing search engines to start parsing queries' intents rather than just searching for the words in them.
      • spike021 57 minutes ago
        I very vaguely recall using it right before I started using google. very early 2000s. it was ok.
      • serf 53 minutes ago
        ask was cool because the appeal initially was to allow people to better form search queries with natural human language questions.

        as far as weird search engine traits I still think ChaCha is king; it's just sort of intrinsically funny that another human being is being given two cents to find me the most relevant FarScape fansite or DIY tattoo ink guides, whatever.

        • DANmode 27 minutes ago
          WAS being given

          They’re done.

      • bfsjjdjdfj 1 hour ago
        During those days you were switching between 3-4 different ones to find info. They were maybe good for two weeks where I would use it alot but you always switched around and came back to it.
      • tempaccount5050 54 minutes ago
        I think that and dogpile were the best in that short area before google took off as the clear winner.
      • Mistletoe 1 hour ago
        Yeah I remember using it back in the day and getting good results.

        > Unlike early keyword-based engines, it aimed to answer specific questions, acting as a precursor to modern AI assistants like Siri or ChatGPT.

        > Ask Jeeves (now Ask.com) was an early search engine launched in 1996 that allowed users to get answers via natural language queries, personified by a cartoon butler mascot. Developed by Garrett Gruener and David Warthen, it focused on Q&A rather than just keywords.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ask.com

      • DANmode 28 minutes ago
        Between ‘97-2000, arguably.
  • buildsjets 1 hour ago
    Oh my, I remember the time they sent a friend of mine a cease-and-desist.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20001017194117/http://www.askgee...

    • pailingems 54 minutes ago
      Careful you don't type an H instead of a G there.
  • tux033 11 minutes ago
    The idea of natural-language search was early, but the brand may have made it feel less technical than it really was. https://tux.re/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212
  • firefoxd 51 minutes ago
    Where do I buy it? Who wants to join me and buy it together?
  • namegulf 19 minutes ago
    You have a great and well known domain name, why not launch a GPT powered LLM on it?

    It's a huge opportunity.

  • randfur 1 hour ago
    No shoutout to P.G. Wodehouse for the IP?
    • gyan 58 minutes ago
      Yeah, what is the recognition of Jeeves/Wooster among the millennials?
      • jemmyw 31 minutes ago
        As a millennial, the TV show with Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry was played when I was a kid, and I've rewatched it several times as an adult and read a few of the books. Our kids have watched the show with us too. I'm currently trying to learn the theme on the piano.

        I'm sure it'll continue in some niche, much like Agatha Christie, where I've seen some recent youtube vids by younger people discovering how well they're written. I like it when they say "follows the old trope of ..." and then in the comments you get "doesn't follow it, invented it".

        • rhdunn 16 minutes ago
          There are a few YouTube "can I solve [story] before the reveal?" style videos focusing on Agatha Christie novels ranging from around 4 years old to today.
      • duped 37 minutes ago
        I was in 4th grade in 2003 when I learned search engines existed (and I have a possibly tainted memory of our Computer Arts teacher in grade school explaining web crawlers and PageRank to us). We had a Gateway PC at home and AOL, but we weren't allowed to use anything networked (I only played Civ III).

        But we were essentially taught to use multiple search engines, but that was AskJeeves, Yahoo!, and Google. We liked AskJeeves because of the whimsy. Yahoo! felt too adult and Google felt too much like adults pretending to be kids.

  • fudgeonastick 1 hour ago
    https://ask.com/ is my go-to site that I know will be up, but I know will not be in my DNS or browser cache. I use it as my "wait, is my internet really working" check.

    I hope the domain lives on, and that I don't want to visit it.

  • jsweojtj 1 hour ago
    I want to know what was the first and last question asked of Jeeves.
  • sgammon 15 minutes ago
    End of an era
  • Lorin 1 hour ago
    Would have been a great domain with the rise of AI, shocking they didn't adapt the persona.
  • EricRiese 1 hour ago
    Pour one out
  • abhinavsharma 1 hour ago
    Did they get a great deal for the domain from an AI lab?
  • esseph 1 hour ago
    Huh. https://www.askjeeves.com is that a spoof of ask.com?
    • dawnerd 1 hour ago
      I think they forgot about it
  • xivzgrev 58 minutes ago
    launched 26 years ahead of its time (LLMs)!
  • avazhi 10 minutes ago
    Been using the net for 26 years and I never once used that website. Or maybe I used it once and it was so dog shit that I thought it was just a spam website.

    Wonder how much they’ll get for the domain name though.

  • UltraSane 1 hour ago
    I wonder what it was like working for them.
    • bsimpson 27 minutes ago
      I only know them as a consumer, but IAC is truly one of the most scourge-of-the-earth companies. They're retreating to publish People Magazine now, but they monopolized concert tickets as Ticketmaster, and online dating as a rollup of every mainstream app in the last 20y. They also bought CollegeHumor and drove it into the ground/irrelevance.

      They're a terrible company. It's no surprise that AskJeeves failed, but society is better for it.

    • paradoxyl 33 minutes ago
      as I recall, they hired writers and freelancers who put together broad articles that got pointed too when you asked a question, instead of trying to answer questions individually... but my memory could be off, that was 20 years ago.