Job: Head of Stonehenge

(english-heritage.org.uk)

126 points | by mooreds 3 hours ago

21 comments

  • tekchip 15 minutes ago
    "From £64,189 p.a. depending on skills and experience"

    I maintained a collection of well organized rocks as a child. Surely that gets me a bit more than base pay right?

  • davidschof 1 hour ago
    Their senior solution architect vacancy has similar pay: https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/about/our-people/careers...

    Somewhat less eminent job title though.

    • riffraff 1 hour ago
      I would love to have "Stonehenge architect" as a job title.
      • oaiey 1 hour ago
        They really miss out on opportunities here.
    • vanuatu 1 hour ago
      that is abysmal!
      • eterm 45 minutes ago
        That's a fairly standard wage outside London for senior developers.

        UK wages are not great.

        • siva7 30 minutes ago
          i wouldn't call that standard wage, rather the lowest end of the spectrum where you could theoretically shop a "senior" outside of london.
      • Ndymium 28 minutes ago
        As a Finnish dev with 12 years of experience, I can only aspire for such salary.
        • ksec 3 minutes ago
          Are you serious? Sarcasm Don't translate well on internet.
      • yzydserd 49 minutes ago
        Maybe you missed the “25% discount in our shops and cafes” perk for the day you need to be in the office. Score.
      • blitzar 27 minutes ago
        wait till you hear about the stock grants and vesting schedule
  • SLHamlet 1 hour ago
    RE Your predecessor

    No one knows who he was, or what he was doing.

    But his legacy remains hewn in the HR dock of Stonehenge.

  • ggm 1 hour ago
    * Must be proficient in use of mistletoe in unspecified rituals.

    * Must provide own sickle, and robes.

  • chicagojoe 53 minutes ago
    I was slightly disappointed when I first visited Stonehenge as the standard tours keep you fairly far away and roped off.

    But, I took a modestly more expensive "Inner Stones" tour a few months ago and lucked out being selected to be fully alone for a minute. It was a profound experience being in the middle of such a historic place.

    Highly, highly recommended!

    • laurencerowe 42 minutes ago
      Best of all go during the summer solstice when there is free public access. It’s really quite fun.

      During the the 1980s and ‘90s there were regular clashes between new age hippies and police stopping them from reaching Stonehenge during summer solstice before public access was allowed.

  • madrox 2 hours ago
    Building a henge, are we?
    • kombookcha 1 hour ago
      You bastards, you never told me 200 miles. 200 miles in this day and age! I don't even know where I live now!
      • madrox 28 minutes ago
        I wish the Christians would hurry up and get here
  • Quarrel 2 hours ago
    Damnit. No WFH option.
  • xtorol 2 hours ago
    Due to a typo in the paperwork sent to HR by the hiring manager, they are only paying 64,189 pence. The director was last heard chastising HR, saying "It's not your job to be as confused as Nigel."
  • faangguyindia 2 hours ago
    i know quite a few dev ops and frontend guys who were employed for last 4 years and are now driving taxi in india.
  • mattoxic 1 hour ago
    I would have thought you'd need to be a druid
  • readthenotes1 2 hours ago
    "Job type Permanent"

    I bet they enjoyed typing that in.

    "5,000 years+ -- depends on you"

    Might be another option if it were freeform text

  • onion2k 1 hour ago
    "If I get the role, what will my budget for repairs be?"
  • zuzululu 2 hours ago
    really wish i keot my british passport
  • russellbeattie 1 hour ago
    I caught a live stream of Stonehenge during this past Winter Solstice (it was cloudy, naturally) and the streamer provided a bit of trivia that I hadn't heard before:

    George Washington's English ancestors, specifically Sir Lawrence Washington, were the owners of the West Amesbury Estate in Wiltshire, England, which included the land where the ancient Stonehenge monument sits. (Via Google)

    If you hadn't that before, welcome to the "Huh, that's a funny coincidence" club.

    • hdgvhicv 0 minutes ago
      Rich people have lots of descenders who tend to be rich.

      Washington was a wealthy landowner in the British Empire, hardly surprising his ancestors were wealthy landowners.

  • Mistletoe 1 hour ago
    Honestly feels like a dream job. Imagine your ancestors smiling down on you if you are from Britain or just human.
    • kijin 1 hour ago
      Considering the location, I would imagine that the ancestors prefer to haunt the barrows at night. Still a dream job if that's your thing. Just watch out for the occasional Nazgûl. :)
  • _alternator_ 2 hours ago
    On the front page? LLMs got lots of us programmers dreaming of leaving the profession, I suppose.
    • tyre 2 hours ago
      Is this not super cool regardless? Even if you love tech, was a fun little gem.
  • celsius1414 2 hours ago
    Missed opportunity to say they’re ‘looking for a rock star to lead our team!’
    • peebee67 1 hour ago
      They pretty much are, too. It certainly reads like some tech job ads. Rock star with 30 years experience. Graduate wages.
    • samplatt 1 hour ago
      Tasks include: looking at rocks, stars.
    • laszlojamf 2 hours ago
      "a solid leader who can carry the weight of our massive responsibility"
    • chappi42 1 hour ago
      They don't look for rock stars. English heritage wants ideology:

      "You can connect with others through our EDI networks as a member or ally. These include Ethnic Diversity, Faith & Belief, Social Equity, LGBTQ+, Neurodivergence, Age, Disability and Gender Health and Wellbeing."

      (Should have mentioned Talibans, handy to blow up misplaced stones)

      • kitd 20 minutes ago
        Why is that ideology?
  • pants2 2 hours ago
    Sounds like a very cool job, and not sure about the UK job market, but seems to be wildly underpaid for the qualifications!
    • kaonwarb 2 hours ago
      Not disagreeing, but it's also worth something to know, and say, that you are in charge of Stonehenge.
      • sva_ 2 hours ago
        Must be an extraordinary honor to be in charge of a bunch of rocks over there.
        • cyclopeanutopia 38 minutes ago
          Wait until you learn some people are swapping bits all day long, isn't that crazy?
        • 650REDHAIR 1 hour ago
          Yes?
    • YZF 1 hour ago
      36 hours per week. 25 days vacation (going to 28). Pension contributions. You can buy extra leave. Epic location, fun job, decent salary for the UK (where e.g. you don't pay for healthcare)...
      • Tepix 11 minutes ago
        Yeah, the 25 days of vacation are a bit disappointing, in Germany 30 days are standard.
    • kristianc 1 hour ago
      This, shockingly, is actually quite well paid considering for the UK.

      Lead Data Scientist for the UK Government is currently advertising for a salary of £57,670 - £67,500.

      https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/jobs.cgi?jco...

    • moomin 10 minutes ago
      The charity sector rarely pays well.
    • loeg 2 hours ago
      This is like a 90th percentile UK salary.
    • phyzix5761 1 hour ago
      Don't forget to deduct the 25% effective tax rate.

      Calculator: https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/estimate-paye-take-home-pay/y...

    • jrflo 1 hour ago
      I'm not in the UK, but from what I understand that's actually decent. US salaries, particularly in tech, are wildly higher than in most of Europe.
      • oaiey 1 hour ago
        UK tech salaries are also not high. And 64k pounds for a history and/or business major is quite right. Do not forget also: history is a overrun study with many people afterwards driving taxis
    • techterrier 2 hours ago
      this isnt all that *bad for something in the conservation / heritage / ngo sector

      edit: *obviously its not a wonderful salary, but for the sector....well I've seen worse.

    • y-curious 2 hours ago
      Especially considering minimum wage “salary” in the UK is ~24k GBP, 64k is nothing imo. They call it the “wage squeeze”
      • UnfitFootprint 2 hours ago
        Average full time salary is 40k GBP. It’s +50% on the average which seems right for a non profit organisation in a non exec role
        • jacknews 1 hour ago
          It is a leadership role though.

          I don't know how many staff there are, but it's surely one of EH's most important locations.

      • loeg 2 hours ago
        This is like 90th percentile UK salary. It's good pay for the UK, a poor country.
        • gbro3n 1 hour ago
          The UK is still the 5th biggest economy in the world. Public infrastructure feels like it's under huge strain however, and there is also a big problem with inequality, which seems to be changing under Labour, albeit slowly.
          • somenameforme 1 hour ago
            Raw economy size can be misleading in two ways. The value of a dollar is much less or much more depending on where you're at. So an economy of 10 shekels might mean an economy of 100 widgets, or it might mean an economy of 1 widget. Purchasing power parity (PPP) attempts to account for that. The second is that economies are largely a product of population. An economy of a million making a million shekels is quite a bit different than an economy of 10 making a million shekels, so you also want to look at per capita values. Even both of these adjustments combined [1] can be extremely misleading (see: Ireland and many other places...), but they provide at least a less unreasonable basis for comparison than nominal dollars. And the UK is currently 30th there.

            [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)...

          • kristianc 1 hour ago
            Inquality has barely moved per Gini in the last thirty years, and GDP is very misleading.

            https://ifs.org.uk/data-items/gini-coefficient

        • geysersam 2 hours ago
          Let's not be delusional. The UK is not a poor country, and 64K is low by US tech standards but it's good by any other measure.
          • kristianc 1 hour ago
            If the UK were a US state, its GDP per capita would rank it roughly on par with or just below Mississippi, making it the poorest state in the union.
            • aEJ04Izw5HYm 33 minutes ago
              While true from a per capita equivalency and too close for comfort, the median net worth of an adult in the UK is roughly $150,000, while in Mississippi it's $15,000. Also, its public services are provided, which substantially affects the quality of life.
          • loeg 1 hour ago
            The UK is poor and sprinting as fast as it can towards being poorer.
          • bpodgursky 1 hour ago
            It's not a "good" wage in the US. It's exactly median.

            Which is fine, someone has to be median, but really underwhelming for the (presumably highly-educated and talented) head of the #1 national historical monument.

            • mrwh 1 hour ago
              It's £64K, not $64K (which is indeed about the median in the US). So, not bad.
              • bpodgursky 1 hour ago
                Ah I misread that, but $86k is still not good for a highly educated professional.
                • oaiey 1 hour ago
                  It is good for a professional with specialization in history.
      • enraged_camel 2 hours ago
        Yeah, but 25 days holiday plus bank holidays means you're working like half the year at most. ;)
        • dylan604 1 hour ago
          And don't you knock of at lunch on Fridays anyways? So that's like a 4 day work week, because let's face it, you're not really doing anything on the day you're knocking off early anyways. See you at the pub!
    • swarnie 2 hours ago
      Just a smidge over $63k after tax and before gibbs.

      The job market over here is shocking.

      • loeg 2 hours ago
        This is equivalent to $85,700 USD, not $63k.
        • theodric 1 hour ago
          Read it again. $63k after tax and before "gibbs" i.e. government-provided social distributions.
      • dismalaf 2 hours ago
        Lol in Canada 64,000 pounds = $120K CAD which would put you in the 92nd income percentile.
    • ai-roundup 2 hours ago
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  • green_wheel 2 hours ago
    What's your role?

    I'm a CSO.

    Oh nice, Strategy or Security?

    Stonehenge.

    • quuxplusone 1 hour ago
      "Just to be clear, you are saying you manage a hedge fund, right?"

      "Yeah, a henge fund."

      "Hedge fund."

      "Henge fund."

      "Hedge."

      "Henge."

      "...I think we're on the same page."

    • bfeist 1 hour ago
      Heard of it?
  • smashah 2 hours ago
    Stonehenge would be a great AI Lab name!